Monday, June 29, 2009

The Rumblings of a Distant Storm

Cop: Why Gun Sales Are Up

Written by Scott Wagner.

view.jpgThe fear on the street is palpable. Ever since the election of Barack Obama as President of these United States in November 2008, coupled with the election of a democrat party majority in both the U.S. House and Senate, concern for the United States and personal safety has ignited like a fire in dry grass. Sales of guns – black guns, rifles, shotguns and handguns (particularly 9mm) everywhere, have gone through the roof. AR15s have literally flown off of dealer shelves, and only now in the spring of 2009, have I seen the display samples of ARs begin to reappear on the wall of my favorite shooting emporium after the initial post election rush.

What is odd about this new fear is that it is not coming from the average citizen gun owner out there, but it is coming from what to me is an almost shocking source: street cops. Street cops and SWAT cops that I know from various agencies – rural, suburban and metro – in my area are scared. Cops that before November 2008 never gave much thought (that I knew of anyway) to politics or more importantly to gun rights. For the most part, these are the guys that didn’t generally have any interest in shooting or gun ownership beyond keeping track of where their duty gun is, and a few of them didn’t even do that so well.

The guys I am talking about are some of the same guys who used to not even carry off duty on a regular basis- but not anymore. They don’t scare easily, defenders of the Constitution of this State and the United States (as our oath of office reads), have been buying ARs, survival gear, and all the ammo they can lay their hands on. All of them (or I should say “us”) have been discussing and have been acquiring guns to provide a layered perimeter defense.


What are we suddenly so afraid of? Well in our discussions it seems to boil down to four areas. First, fear of federal government intrusion into our lives. Every time I look at or listen to the news, there is something new and intrusive coming out of the Obama administration and this Congress. New tax schemes, government-run Canadian-style healthcare, a volunteer citizen defense force (whatever that is, what happened to the National Guard?) equipped with funding similar to our military, forced voluntary “service” after retirement, a lack of a southern border with hordes of illegal and criminal aliens pouring over our border, the swine flu scare as well as government forced closing of thousands of privately held Chrysler and GM dealerships, which will be the final nail in the coffin for these companies and the list goes on and on.

But these items in the news are just the tip of the iceberg. We can’t see the full impact of these actions yet, but we don’t know what was added into the thousand of pages of stimulus package bills in the dead of night yet. I predict however that when the plans contained in the stimulus packages go into effect, a lot of us are going to be surprised if not shocked by what has suddenly and sweepingly changed.

What also scares us is the second, well-founded fear that there is an assault weapons ban looming, one that would make the Clinton Ban appear like a look of disdain in comparison. I remember well the 1990s and the Clinton years: the rise of militia groups, the “black helicopter” rumors and paranoia, all of which was motivated by the Brady Law and the Assault Weapon’s ban. What if a new ban comes requiring registration or confiscation and turn-in of banned weapons as what happened in Australia?


Americans are citizens, and not subjects like the British, Canadians or Australians. They just don’t always obey the law blindly and not one officer or citizen that I spoke to said anything like “I hope I get to keep this gun for awhile before they are banned; They are fun to shoot, so I would hate to give it up.” It isn’t going to happen, so the cop on the street and the soldier on the base needs to think now what he will do if the orders come down. I think you all get what I am saying here.

Which leads me to the third fear, that there is a revolution coming, yes, a revolution on the scale of the original American Revolution. You can hear this topic discussed on many of the talk radio shows by even the big name hosts. The possibility of an armed revolution against the U.S. government is being discussed, albeit very gingerly and fleetingly and as something to be avoided, which it is. I never heard this mentioned in the 90s.

One of my quietest, low profile officer friends brought it up the other day. He said that at some point in the near future, he felt there is going to be an armed revolt if things keep going the way they are. Something has got to give. I was shocked. Yes, I had heard this from some of my more radical cop friends in the past, but to hear it from a guy like this was unprecedented for me. Now, these guys are not saying this will happen to foment revolution, preach sedition or to even participate. They just want to be ready if it happens, to at least defend their families, because number four on the fear list is general societal chaos.

Cops fear for their parents, wives, children or grandchildren more now than ever before. Most cops are encouraging their spouses and loved ones to get concealed carry permits. Not only that, but some of these same cops are buying gun mounts for their personal cars so they can carry an AR in the family ride at the ready all the time. They are also strapping on heavier forms of off-duty hardware. I have other friends that are issued ARs or subguns for tactical team use, who always have their gear with them and are planning on just commandeering these weapons for personal use in defending hearth and home.

Final Notes
This is pretty heady and maybe even dangerous stuff. Know fully that I am not advocating anything here. I am reflecting to you what I see and hear going on around me, and maybe saying things that haven’t been said in the open, until now. It is something to think about.

Scott Wagner is a Police Academy Commander and Professor at Columbus State Community College in Columbus Ohio, and Commander of the 727 Counter Terror Training Unit. A 29 year law enforcement veteran, and current Deputy Sheriff, he is the Precision Marksman for the Union County Sheriff’s Office SRT Team.

This is a truncated version of the article. Those who want to read what this guy has to say about specific weapons and ammunition can do so here:

My thoughts on this: While this is certainly a positive development in terms of the growing fear and discomfort among those with their ears close to the ground, these folks are still agents of ZOG, and I would trust them about as far as I could hurl their donut eating asses. Only when the shit actually does hit the fan, will we see which side of the line they choose. For many of these authoritarian assholes the very thought of defying the gubmint (or orders in general) is anethema.

I am cautious but optimistic. The discontent rumbling through the land is not limited to race, and there is plenty of abuse of basic rights and liberties as ZOG goes for all the marbles socially, racially, politically and economically. Resistance is going to come from a broad spectrum of people and political views. Worse is better, and the ensuing chaos is our opportunity to turn back the tide of our own destruction and get this ship headed back in the right direction.


  1. Americans are citizens, and not subjects like the British, Canadians or Australians.

    I don't know about this. The Anglosphere has normally been one of the freest places on the globe. I never seem to get the anti-British bias on from some people.

    I want to point out that it will probably be the county sheriffs and not city or state police that will take the side of the citizen against the state. During the Civil rights movement it was sheriff Bull Connor that stood up to Negro violence, while the city in his county cowered because they thought standing up would scare off investors. In addition, a gun rights group in Ohio conducted a survey and found that unelected city police chiefs tend to be for gun control, while elected sheriffs were not.

    This could be because cities tend to have a lot of coloreds, but I also feel that having the head of the county police department directly accountable to the voters is the best way to keep them in check.

  2. Another brilliant post Big R. I was driving around Boston today and to be honest have been noticing the populace itself is getting fed up by what you read on bumper stickers.

    Me personally I believe this why the kikes have wormed their way into every facet of our lives. Robbing us blindly,and using us to get their oil concerns out of Iraq.

    I really believe if they push us into war with Iran...A country that does have a military, not decimated like Iraq's or not even have a real one the Taliban then we will see the revolution.

    When our troops and military is really torn down the populace will wake up. The kikes know this. Maybe this why they haven't attacked Iran yet?

    If you look through out history almost every nation has some for of revolution every 250 to 350 years,,Yes it is our time

  3. i agree cleveland, we all getting screwed, i noticed in the downriver area, i cant get 45 auto ammo, im lucky to get reloads, i cant even go out and shoot my new weapon for fear of not finding any ammo, we have a real threat of something going on, but what it is, remains to be seen. a friend of mine just sold about 1000 bullets of 9mm (black talons) for a dollar a round, to his friends up in rose city mi. He told me the guys in the sticks are preparing for the worst case situation.

  4. Well fella's - it's about 2:30 AM and I just wrote a good sized comment to add to the discussion.

    But instead of copy 'n paste, I slashed 'n burned ...

    the fingers and mind evidently outa synch.

    gonna call it a night !